“We have two judicial systems” for black and white Americans, Harris said.
The first black and South Asian American’s comments on a major party’s presidential ticket come less than two months before the November elections in an exclusive State of the Union interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on Sunday in which Harris suggested Trump not pretending to be a “real leader” in matters of racial justice and attempting to “pretend he was a leader” in relation to the coronavirus pandemic.
“I don’t think most sane people, paying attention to the facts, would deny the existence of racial differences and a system that has been racist in terms of law enforcement,”
; said Harris, a California senator and former attorney general . “It’s not good for us to deny it. Let’s just deal with it. Let’s face it. These may be difficult conversations for some, but they are not difficult conversations for executives, not real executives.”
Barr, the country’s top law enforcement officer, dismissed the idea of ”two justice systems” in a CNN interview Wednesday. “I think we have to be a little careful when throwing the idea of racism around,” he said. “I don’t think it’s as common as people think it is.”
When Trump was specifically asked about systemic racism during his visit to Kenosha, Wisconsin last week, he refused to acknowledge it and said, “You know, you keep coming back to the other topic. We should be talking about the nature of violence , which we have.” saw in Portland and here and in other places. “
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Protests against racial injustices, particularly in law enforcement, have ruled the country as police violence against black Americans – including George Floyd in Minneapolis, Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky, Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and Daniel Prude in Rochester, New York – dominated the headlines this summer.
In a July survey by ABC News / Washington Post, nearly nine in ten black Americans said they are not confident that the police will treat black and white Americans equally, while the majority of white Americans are confident they will be treated equally .
A 2019 poll by the Pew Research Center found that black Americans were about five times more likely than white Americans to say they were wrongly stopped by police because of their race or ethnicity.
“I’m very sure that in America we need to imagine how we can achieve public safety,” Harris told Bash. “If we want to create safe communities, the smartest way to invest in the health of those communities is because healthy communities are safe communities.”
The White House passed a policy on Friday night banning race awareness training on “white privilege” in federal agencies. The government blew up the training in a memo called “divisive anti-American propaganda”.
Harris pushed for her call for charges against the Kenosha officer who shot Blake seven times in the back, insisting that she was “very clear” that charges should be “taken very seriously”. She squeezed again and repeated her initial statement that “based on what I saw he should be charged,” but “I am not in full possession of the facts and evidence.”
Harris meets Trump administration for coronavirus response
With a US death toll of more than 188,000, Harris attacked the Trump administration for “minimizing” the severity of the coronavirus outbreak and not doing enough to make ends meet for millions of Americans.
“There is no question that Donald Trump was a pathetic failure and incompetent in dealing with the severe job loss resulting from the pandemic for not addressing the pandemic himself,” Harris told Bash. “We have to talk about how the economy is doing based on how the workers are doing. And right now the workers are suffering.”
The unemployment rate in the United States is 8.4%, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday. That is a decrease of 14.7% in April, but still a long way from the pre-pandemic unemployment rate of 3.5% in February.
Harris went on to say that she would not trust Trump’s word alone regarding the safety and effectiveness of a coronavirus vaccine, but said that she “would trust the word of public health experts and scientists,” including Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
“Joe Biden and I have a plan,” Harris said of vaccine distribution. “Donald Trump doesn’t.”
Trump said Friday he believes a coronavirus vaccine could “likely” come sometime in October, although experts believe it is more likely to come later.
He also said the US was “going around the corner of the virus” on Friday. Earlier that day, a new model from the University of Washington’s Institute of Health Metrics and Assessment, whose earlier models were routinely cited by the White House in the early days of the pandemic, forecast that more than 400,000 Americans could die from the virus by the end of the year.
When asked if she believed states should mandate a coronavirus vaccine for public school students along with other vaccinations, Harris said she would listen to public health experts.
Harris also declined to endorse a federal mask mandate, calling for a “national standard” instead. “This is not about punishment. It is not about big brother,” Harris said.
“We have a President of the United States who made this a partisan issue,” she continued. “The virus doesn’t care who you voted in the last election or who you want to vote in the next election. We need a leadership that appreciates that they shouldn’t be partial on certain issues. Wearing a mask it definitely shouldn’t. ” be one of them. “
Russian interference could “theoretically” cost us the choice
Harris said “of course” Russian interference in the 2020 US presidential election could “theoretically” cost the Democrats the White House in November.
“Could it cost you the White House?” asked Bash. “In theory, of course. Yes,” replied Harris. “I believe there will be foreign interference in the 2020 elections and that Russia will be at the forefront,” Harris continued.
A Ministry of Homeland Security intelligence bulletin last week said Russia is trying to sow doubts about the 2020 elections by reinforcing false claims about postal voting and fraud. Last month, the secret services’ chief electoral security officer publicly announced that Russia is working to “vilify” Biden, while China and Iran prefer that Trump not be re-elected.
“I get along with President (Vladimir) Putin,” Trump said at a press conference on Friday, declining to join European leaders in condemning Russia and calling for an explanation for an attack on Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny. “I don’t know exactly what happened. I think it’s tragic. It’s terrible; it shouldn’t happen. We haven’t had any evidence yet, but I’ll take a look,” Trump said.
Harris: My mother would say “beat Trump”
Harris also spoke about her family in this in-depth interview with Bash, including her relationship with her husband, stepchildren, and her late mother.
“I think she would be really proud,” Harris said, remembering her mother, who died of cancer in 2009. “And they would say beat Trump.”
“She raised us to have a life of service. And she would look at the suffering now, she would look at the denial of science now and it would piss her off, excuse my language,” she said of her mother who was a breast cancer researcher.
Harris has two stepchildren, Cole and Ella, with her husband, Doug Emhoff.
“We have a very modern family,” Harris told Bash. “If everyone proceeds in such a way that there is a lot of love for sharing, then it works. And we have a lot of love for sharing in our extended family.”